The XCritic Interview: Natasha Nice

April 7, 2022
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So, it’s last Friday evening, about 6 pm, and I’m supposed to talk with Natasha Nice on the phone here in a minute. She’s the kind of performer that deserves a ton of notes to go off, so I won’t forget to bring up a talking point, or neglect to work in a promo for her newest thing. But then again, as I’m sitting here, rifling through pages and pages of notes, I realize it’s too much. There is no way I can possibly cover all this in an hour.

And then, I glance over at my screen and see this promo shot– except I’m in the process of sizing and saving it, and the web sized photos we use are so large, it filled up the entire window, leaving only Natasha’s eyes showing. It wasn’t exactly what the image was supposed to be, but at that moment, it was perfect.

That was the girl I was going to talk to. O.k, ... I can do this, no problem. The phone rang and she picked up …. and after the “Hi, how ya doing?” Everything fell right into place. Natasha Nice is a superstar, but in talking with her, you’d never know it. She was down to earth, conversational, and witty. It was a fun interview. In every possible way, it was an extraordinarily NICE conversation.

I got a chance to get to know Natasha a little bit, above and beyond the video covers, videos, photo sets, and the Press Releases. I am hopeful that her fans and maybe even some industry friends will get to know her a little better by reading through our interview.

We had a good time and covered a lot of ground. We didn’t touch on everything, but got most of it, and that’s a wrap.

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Jim Steele - Natasha, how's it going today?

Natasha Nice - Hey there, it's going pretty good! I'm just getting ready to hop on my webcam in a little bit.

Jim - Cool. So, it's a Friday evening, and my plans are talking with you, then maybe going out and getting something to eat. But aside from the webcamming, which we can talk about a little bit later in more detail, what would a normal Friday night or a Saturday look like for you?

Natasha - Honestly, it would probably be a little bit of editing and maybe scheduling some posts of some sort, and then probably just Netflix, or the occasional dinner with friends. It depends on who's available.

Jim - Okay. So, you're a workaholic then, right?

Natasha - I'm kind of a workaholic, yeah. I do have time with my friends and everything, but if I have work to do, then I usually try to get that done. But I do love my Netflix movies and then, you know, whatever else.

Jim - So I'll ask you, which one are you stuck on right now?

Natasha - I'm actually stuck on a TV show called "Insatiable". It's kind of like a parody of the pageant world. I think it's funny and it's interesting.

Jim - Well, I'm stuck on "Ozark" for the third time.

Natasha - Oh, really? I loved "Ozark". What do you think?

Jim - I couldn't get enough of it. Not two times, but now I'm halfway through the third time … in probably about a month, if that tells you anything.

Natasha - Wow. What season?

Jim - That's the deal. The whole series, not just a season. I've been binge watching the hell out of that.

Natasha - Wow, you are obsessed.

Jim - It's a good show.

Natasha - It is. What did you think of the third season?

Jim - Of the third?

Natasha - Or the fourth.

Jim - I don't know what's in the fourth season.

Natasha - Well, didn't they come out with...?

Jim - Oh, you're talking about the new... Oh, those are coming out. I have not seen those yet. I'll have to look for that. I'm still stuck on the old stuff.

Natasha - Gotcha. Yeah, the old stuff's really good.

Jim - Yeah, that's me. I'm stuck on all the wrong things. But tell me about your webcamming since you brought it up. It was a little bit further down my list, but let's go ahead and lead off with that.

Natasha - Sure.

Jim - Where are you at? The CamModels site?

Natasha - Yeah. I think it all goes through the streamatemodels.com site. But yeah, I do CamModels. I've been doing that since like 2011. I like it. It's a pretty good little setup.

Jim - But what is it about camming that is so attractive to you? Is it a certain amount of freedom? Do you just get to do what you want, or do the fans dictate? What's the most appealing thing about that for you?

Natasha - Honestly … Every day's a little different, every show, every fan is a little different. I think what's appealing is I can just kind of hop on when I want, and wear what I want, and it's just me and my fans. It's not scripted. It's just whatever happens. I like it. I like spending time with my fans.

Jim - I'm pretty familiar with OnlyFans. I think a lot of people are. But for those who might be novices to one or both of these, what's the main difference between the camming and your OnlyFans?

Natasha - Well, OnlyFans is more of a content platform than Streamate is. Streamate lets you post a video library as well, but it's primarily focused on the live shows, whereas OnlyFans is more geared towards selling videos. And there's also a live feature. But I think streamate has so much traffic with people who want to see live cams that it's just a little bit better to go on streamate for that particular thing. Whereas with OnlyFans it’s like, if you want to text them, or you want to just chat and give them the videos that they're looking for, it's better organized for that.

Jim - O.k, so maybe for live one-on-one interaction, then the streaming or camming would probably be better for that.

Natasha - It would be. But at the same time, with the OnlyFans members, I think they really appreciate seeing live shows. And so yeah, I guess just streaming's kind of just more for that, but OnlyFans is definitely good for it too.

Jim - Well, that's great. I mean, it's just one more platform that you can be successful at, and if you enjoy it, then that's terrific.

Natasha - Yeah.

Jim - But looking at film, and I reference the Internet Adult Film Database, the IAFD. So as of now, there's 808 performer credits that you have. But then I look at your start date, which was around 2006, and I think that that throws some people and I'll tell you why. It's because I look at that start date, and then I look at your profile pic, and I'm like, "Well, she doesn't look that old." You’ve just got this youthful energy and appearance.

Natasha - Oh thank you! What was your question?

Jim - There's not really a question other than, do you get that a lot? As in, "Wow, she doesn't look that old."

Natasha - I think it depends on when each individual viewer found me. Some fans have been following me for a really long time, so it totally makes sense to them that I'm now in the MILF category, or that my look has changed a little bit. But then other fans, they'll tell me that they just started following me like four years ago and they're like, "How old are you?" I tell them I'm 33, and they're like, "Get the fuck out of here." So yeah, I kind of get that a lot, but I also get a lot of people who are just like, "Oh yeah, you've been around forever. We know you."

Jim - Well, I guess they've grown up with you.

Natasha - They have, they really have. They tell me that I'm the first porn star they ever watched or that they were however old when they first started watching me. And I'm like, "Holy shit, that's when I started watching porn. Okay, cool." We've grown up together.

Jim - So you bring up MILF and that leads me into the Digital Sin's "My Naughty Stepmom" and it's available over New Sensations VOD, among other places. But that's a full cast - Jessica Ryan, Jamie Michelle, Shay Sights, Chad Alva, Codey Steele, and Tyler Nixon, and it's a full-length feature, and in that film, you’re definitely cast as a MILF. But my question leading up to that is, I've heard, and you can see on Twitter and wherever, that there's some people that have a problem with the label of MILF. As far as labels or genres in general, do you find something like that limiting, or do you just see it as yet another way for you to get yourself out there?

Natasha - I guess yes and no. I do think the MILF market is really big. The fans are really loyal to it, they're very obsessed with it. So, in that sense, I don't think it limits me, it just gives me a more loyal fan base. But then at the same time I think more people do prefer the new hot young girl or whatever. So maybe at times I'm not going to be the favorite … so that could limit me a little bit, but I haven't noticed it too much. I still get a good amount of bookings and traffic on my sites and everywhere else. So, it’s like, “So far, so good.”

‘I asked this question because of the way that our society, and sometimes, those within the industry attempt to define what a woman can or should be. The genre of MILF, or … for those unaware, a Mom I’d Like to Fuck . … is one that has been with us since forever and a day. However, as of late, a debate has been going on, having to do with the way a MILF is defined, and it’s not an unfair question. Is it determined by age, appearance, demeanour … or is there really no definition at all, other than being sexy? Some would like for it to be defined by age, but how would you do that? It’s not an easy thing, other than to say, could “such and such actress be a MILF?” Natasha can and does portray a gorgeous MILF but doesn’t let that limit her range of performance.

Natasha Nice is unafraid of labels or being limited by terminology that others might use to define sexy, alluring, and attractive. Instead, Natasha has chosen to step into the popular MILF genre and owns it without fear or reservation. While it is true that Natasha is a brilliant actress and a beautiful girl, she has an equally fervent internal glow, shining in a way that draws the camera in close, commanding center stage by her presence alone. In short, Natasha Nice transcends labels and genres by simply showing up. Natasha is her own woman, unashamed, unafraid, and beautiful.

Natasha - There was a time where the MILF thing wasn't as big, but I think certain performers kind of made it enormous and market tastes just kind of shifted over time. I'm not sure why. But I think that people really, really love the incest stuff, especially the mommy stuff. And I get it. When I was a teenager, I was obsessed with the word daddy when I had sex. So, I definitely understand that that's a totally human thing to really like. So, I don't see a problem. I think there's definitely a large enough following that as long as I do it well, I shouldn't disappear off the face of the porn planet.

Jim - No, I doubt if that would do it. But you brought something up, and you're the first person that's ever really maybe came out and said it. But the whole stepparent, even the stepbrother and stepsister business. I think it's kind of baked into our make-up, if you will, but very few people want to admit it or come out and acknowledge that. But it's obviously a huge genre or fetish.

Natasha - Well, I think it's hard for people to admit they have that kind of thing because, I mean, at the first thought of it, it's kind of “Ugh.” Like… if I have an image in my head of me fucking my actual father or my actual mother or my actual sister, I get the heebie jeebies. It grosses me out. But at the same time, if I think of a father figure or a mother figure, then I get super excited.

Jim - Yeah.

Natasha - So it's just how we're made. It's just like a weird, quirky fucking part of human sexuality. I don't know. But people like it.

Jim - Yeah. And I think, like you've kind of alluded to, that the thought of it is okay, as opposed to the act, and everyone’s like, “Maybe not so much.”

Natasha - Yeah, I think I'd literally rather die than actually have sex with my mother.

Jim - Let's see here. Where were we at? Talking about MILFs. So, I am curious to know, whenever I think of that term, for me it has to do with maybe an appearance or the way somebody carries themselves. But then other people want to define it by age, and I don't know that you can do that. So, what are your thoughts on who can be a member of the MILF club, or could anybody?

Natasha - I don't know, because when I look at some of the top MILFs, they're fucking hot. They spend so much time in the gym, they do their skin treatments, they know how to dress, and they know how to seduce. So, a lot of times, in my opinion, hot MILFs are hotter than hot young girls. But I mean, it depends on what your age preference is. I'm 33, like I said, so technically I could have a kid at my age. It's not insane to call a 33-year-old a mother. But I've also seen some performers who are young and flawless and they're playing a MILF role, which doesn't always make sense to me. Still, if it works for the viewer. … Then fine, it works for the viewer.

Jim - I get it. And you made a comment a minute ago that you're 33, but then we both agreed that you may or may not look 33.

Natasha - Thank you.

Jim - Oh, you’re welcome. But it plays into the bigger picture, and you’ve had a couple big nominations, Best New Starlet from AVN in 2008 and then Best Actress in 2012 for “Dear Abby” and “Love Is A Dangerous Game” in 2013.

Natasha - Oh my gosh, I shouldn't have left in 2012 then. Haha

Jim - Haha, yeah, but they were both shot in 2011. But then you come back, and you get a Nom for Most Spectacular Boobs in 2020.

Natasha - It's a fan award, right?

Jim - Yeah, a Fan Award at AVN, not to mention a nom for Lifetime Achievement Award from XCritic. You did win Web Star of the Year from XBiz in 2019– a solid home run on that one. But that goes into this. So, we just talked about how you're a MILF, not that you couldn't be, because you’re spectacular. But then, you got this other category, hot new porn starlets, which was before you left. O.k., fine. But then you come back and you're still getting Best Boob awards or nominations and your boobs are all natural. Okay? So, my point is that you can … you are competing in either category at this point.

Natasha - Young or old, you mean?

Jim - Yeah, yeah. I don't see a difference with you, and that's kind of where I think that you're cool because you can pull off either. I can look at you and see a new starlet or somebody that's "seasoned" and a MILF and is very experienced just because your eyes, your face, your skin. I mean, you look good. So, I thought that was kind of a neat thing that you had that kind of star power back then, and that you're still showing that same kind of capability today. Age, for you anyway, doesn’t seem to matter.

Natasha - Thank you. I feel really good about myself and where I’m at today. Yes, I mean, I was nominated for Best New Starlet for my work in 2007. So yeah, that was really exciting. But after that, things were just going at lighting fast speed and before you know it, it’s like 2011 or 2012, and like I said, I felt like I needed a break.

Jim - Okay, fair enough. So, tell me about you taking a break from the biz.

Natasha - Yeah, so I took a break, and it was for a few reasons. A lot of people were asking me to do anal scenes, and I wasn't quite ready for that yet. I hadn't really explored it much in my personal life. So, there was that. And then I was also kind of feeling like this could definitely be a career for me, but it escalated so quickly, I don't think I was really expecting to get any amount of fame. I was just 18 and horny and wanted money and I thought, "Hey, I'll do porn." But then I found a lot of success and so it escalated quickly.

Natasha - I had a moment where I was just like, "Is this what I want to do for the rest of my life? Or should I go back and make sure that there's nothing else I want to do like something academic?" So, there was that part of it. In the middle of that, there was also a relationship that was going sour, but that's whatever. So, I left, and I went back to school, and I studied a few things. I ended up getting into computer science, and that's when I moved to San Francisco and pursued it a little bit there.

‘My take has always been that if a performer is a true porn star people will remain interested in what they are doing, whether or not they’re on or off screen, and even if they leave the business. Ask yourself, “Can they hold the public’s attention, even after the cameras have stopped rolling?” Well, Natasha Nice is someone who can do that.

Natasha is a bona fide star, an absolute multidisciplinary porno queen. She is a Penthouse Pet and has been on the cover of nearly every adult magazine, but there’s quite a bit more going on with her than just a pretty face. Natasha is fluent in more than one language, and she’s got a college degree in IT, which is something that’s difficult to master. She has dual citizenship. Natasha Nice is … kind of a polished up looking girl, who loves to do dirty nasty things … and she does it all with class. Just a few of the differentiating factors that Natasha brings to the table. She’s an extraordinary girl doing extraordinary things.

Natasha - But then when I was there, I don't know if it was the culture or being away from LA too much or what, but I just started to really miss porn, and I guess that was my answer, that I did want to commit to porn. I started doing porn and computer science and it was a little too much, so I dropped out of the computer science program and just dedicated myself to my OnlyFans and my camming. After that, I started shooting every time I would drive down to LA and that was my life for a few years. I moved to LA last year, and now that’s what I’m doing.

Jim - So did anybody throw any obstacles in your way when you were going to come back and say, "I don't know"? Or was it just a real kind of a smooth and easy thing for you to come back?

Natasha - What happened is in November of 2015, a friend of mine reached out and asked me to do an Exxxotica convention and I was like, "Yeah, sure. Why not?" I was kind of curious about going back anyway. So, I did the convention, and I had no idea what to expect, but all of my fans remembered me. They were so excited that I was there. And in my head, I was like, "Oh, you guys remember me? I've been gone for four years."

Natasha - So I think when I was younger, maybe I didn't catch on. But then at that point I knew, oh, I guess I'm a bigger deal than I realized or whatever. So that kind of made me think that I would have a place if I wanted to return. And then I did. And then Lansky kind of jumped on it right away and gave me a deal, one of those Tushy/Blacked deals because at the time, Blacked Raw and Tushy Raw and Vixen didn't exist yet. And so, I guess that was just like a sign to me, like, okay, I guess I still have a career here then. I want in.

Jim - Yeah. And let's see, you directed in, what was it, 2012 and then in '20. So that would've been right before you left and then just two years ago, correct?

Natasha - What does it say that I directed two years ago?

Jim - Let's see. Two years ago, it was "Cardiogasm" for Adult Time.

Natasha - Right. So, yeah. So right before I left, Penthouse wanted me to come up with my own idea for some stuff. My thing is I like masturbating to role plays and fantasies, so I figured I'd make some scenes about that. And they called it "Madam Nice's Fantasy Factory" or something like that. A lot of people have asked me questions about directing. I don't see myself as that at all, but sometimes I wonder if I'd make a decent scriptwriter. I don't know. I tell myself a lot of stories. Pretty funny sometimes or dramatic, and I’m like, “I should write this down. This is intriguing!”

Jim - I guess I was wondering if when you came back, you also brought some new perspective. I mean Adult Time's no small outfit to laugh at. It's not like it's a tiny production.

Natasha - Well, it was the first year of COVID, I think. So, companies were reaching out to performers to see if performers could create some content for them. And then Bree had asked me to submit some ideas that I could film. And so, I submitted a few and she liked the workout one and yeah, that was it. So, then I just did that. Right before COVID hit, I was doing a lot of gym classes anyway, so I kind of had the flow of it, and the vibe… the energy of it. So that was fun to do.

Jim - Okay. But you would prefer to be in front of the camera?

Natasha - Yeah, I'm definitely a performer. When I came back and saw the huge wave of content creation, it took me a little bit of time to adapt just because I'm so used to someone else calling action and then I just do my thing. And so, it took me a little bit to figure out how to wear both hats. Yeah. But I love it now. There's room for creativity and room for fantasy and just room for my own stuff to shine.

Jim - Let's see. I'm skipping around a little bit, but that's okay. You were born in France, but at what age did you come to this country, to the United States?

Natasha - I was only three years old so my mom just took me and my sisters to California to live with her sisters and the rest of her family. But then we found this French American school in Los Feliz. And since we were French citizens, we got to go there for free. So, my mom sent us there and I picked up my French there from the 4th grade to the 12th grade. And yeah, I’ve visited a few times too, so I have managed to maintain my French culture, even though I left at such a young age.

Jim - So it's cool. So, you have, what, dual citizenship? Is that it?

Natasha - Yeah, yeah. European and American.

Jim - Well, that's neat. And kind of the reason, for that, other than my being curious, is that I know you have the Cannes Film Festival over there and French culture and cinema is the same, but it's different. So, I didn't know exactly how old you were when you came over here, and if you brought any of that culture with you? I thought that might influenced you or your style.

Natasha - My parents really like film a lot, and they always watched films from other countries, like Spanish movies, Indian movies, Italian movies. And that's actually how my dad learned English was by watching movies with the subtitles on. So, there was always a good movie playing at the house with some coffee. I don't know if that influenced my time in porn or anything like that, but it definitely influences my taste in media.

Jim - When I watch you, I will say that I'll notice not only your body, but your facial features just as much or more as the action that's going on. I know that over there the style has more, what would we say, an emotional kind of a base to it, rather than just action and dialogue. I was curious if that was somehow an influence with how you appear on film. You have a dramatic flair with the way you carry yourself in front of the camera. You don't always have to say something to come across.

Natasha - Yeah, I think I have a little bit of, I don't know if it's intensity or fire or what ...

Jim - I think that's a good word for it, yeah.

Natasha - Yeah, my speech teacher used to tell me I had a really strong presence and I'm like, "What does that mean?" But I think I'm starting to understand it now. I don't know. I think there's a difference between French culture and American culture, that American culture is a little bit more aggressive with what they try to accomplish and show. And they're going to try and do everything the best and the most exciting and the most exhilarating. Meanwhile, the French are kind of just trying to show things the way they are, which at times is very, very charming, and attractive because there's just something about it that resonates with people.

Jim - Yeah, and I think that it was, when was that, last year or the year before "The Hot Wives 4" from Sweet Sinners came out. Help me. Who was your co-star in that scene?

Natasha - Oh, oh, that was Alex Mack.

Jim - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that scene right there - and I think I actually reviewed that film - I noticed that about you, and you were just really... you used the word intense, and you absolutely were. You were very intense. That was the last scene of that film and you really capped it off nicely.

Natasha - Nice. Yeah, so I think I do all my scenes like that, especially when I have a good performer and it feels really good, I'm just super into it. I don't really like to leave a dull moment anywhere. I just want to be super involved, as involved as possible, but at the same time, when the dick's really hitting the spot, I just let go and let the sex do what the sex is intended to do. So, I alternate between caring about the camera and not caring about the camera, if that makes sense.

Jim - Well, and there's an art to that. You've got to have a certain amount of acting ability and you've got to hold it together until it's time to not hold it together, right?

Natasha - Yeah. I mean, I have to stay in character. I have to present the goods to the camera and give the director what he or she wants. So, there is obviously that layer to it. But I mean, it's sex and nobody likes a faker, so I make sure to find the spot, find the connection, or make sure he's really excited. That way we can have real good sex.

Jim - Yeah, yeah, and that's what sells and that's what everybody wants to see. But taking just a couple steps back, when you first entered the industry at such a young age, I'm curious to know, your friends and family, what kind of reaction did you get from them when you were just, "Hey, this is what I'm doing"?

Natasha - They kind of sucked about it a little bit. It was like, "What's wrong with you?", that kind of thing. So, I didn't really know how to respond with like, "Nothing. I'm just doing porn," so I guess I maybe fed into it a little bit and I was like, "I don't know. Is something wrong with me?" I don't think that they really understood where I was coming from. And a lot of people, at least back then, they were like, "But you're so sweet, you're so smart. Why would you do that?" Which I think is a really rude thing to say. So yeah, they kind of know not to bother me about that anymore. I think everybody in my family has heard my rebuttal at one point or another and they've just knocked it off. They still don't like it, though.

Jim - But you're happy and you can sleep at night, so I guess that's what's important, correct?

Natasha - Yeah. I mean, I need to be real with myself and be who I am. And I think honestly, when you're a promiscuous female, you're going to get shit for it, whether you're out about it or not. So, I might as well be out about it. And you got to pick your battles in life, so I guess I picked this one.

Jim - Yeah. And I mean, if you're going to do that, it's better than just bar hopping. And I don't know about you, but I just don't date outside, so to speak. It's like you're going on a first date and there's this awkward question that if you were dating someone and you want to be like, "Oh, well, do you have a current test?" But meanwhile I'm like, "Well, that's not an appropriate question for a regular first date." I don't know how some people get away with it. But the point is, if you're going to do it, you might as well do it in kind of the safe confines of the industry, right?

Natasha - I mean, just whatever you're going to do, just do it safely. I sleep with people outside of the industry too, and I just ask them if they're clean or we just use condoms. But that's just for casual sex. I haven't actually dated a non-porn person in a while. But yeah, you can't really ask them to get tested. And it kind of turns me off when I tell them what I do and then they're like, "Well, do you have a test?" And I'm like, "Do you have a test? Because … Yeah, I have a test."

Jim - Yeah, well, let's both get out our phones and show each other our dashboards at this point, right?

Natasha - Yeah. I mean, in porn that's all good. In real life it's really just a condom.

Jim - Yeah. And I say that a little bit in fun. I mean, it's not like you're really doing that, but I think it just goes to the point of how you kind of mentioned if this is what you want to do. And so, it's better than just running around haphazard, 100 miles an hour, doing it whenever with whoever.

Natasha - Yeah, just do whatever works for you. But for me, it just kind of works for me this way.

Jim - That's cool. So besides that, that particular part of it, you're getting paid, you're fucking beautiful people and having what a lot of people might imagine would be a fairy tale life. What's the best part about your life and career that you could point to and say, "Yeah, yeah, that's why I get up in the morning and that’s why I do this"?

Natasha - I honestly can't really think of just one thing. I think it's just all of it. I've been doing it a really long time and I've found my right balance, found my place, what I really like to do, what I'm not so into, and when I like to do it, how often, how much. And so, it's starting to all fit really well and balance. And so, I think just the entire career itself, because I have been working on it for so long and making sure that it fits perfectly with what I want for my life, that it's just fulfilling in that way. I make room for work, I make room for time with my fans, I make room for hobbies.

Natasha - I feel like all of my needs are met and that I have enough free time and leisure, because of my job, to make sure that all my other needs are met. I don't just have to work a 9 - 00 to 5 - 00 and then do a bunch of housework on Saturday and only go for a hike on Sunday. There's room for hobbies, there's room for friends, there's room for chilling on the couch and watching TV, there's room for my dog, for family time, all my work. It really makes my life complete because I can schedule everything whenever I need to schedule it.

Jim - Okay, so there’s something else going on, it's coming out, "Going Halfsies". It's Nuru Massage with Joshua Lewis and Apollo Banks. So, I got to ask you about this because the trailer - and I'll admit I only watched the trailer on this one - it jumps way past any massage action. But I've heard a lot of girls talk about this, that, "Oh, I'm going to do a Nuru massage." Can anybody do this? Because I don't think they can. And I want to know, what are the particulars for doing this?

Natasha - I don’t know… I think anybody could do it.

Jim - Oh, okay.

Natasha - Yeah. I mean, it's like just a really sticky massage oil. And so, you kind of just have to play with it slowly and make the oil look sexy. And it's a little bit more of an athletic performance than other scenes because you're kind of slipping everywhere, but you have to maintain the position. So, there's that. But yeah, I totally think anyone could do it.

Jim - All right. So, what was it like with two guys?

Natasha - Yeah, that was a little challenging, but it was also kind of fun because I could just slip over to one guy and then slide over to the other. It was hot because there were two of them and I would fuck one and then the other one would just kind of be there grabbing my ass or whatever, and then I'd go over and fuck the other one. I thought it was hot.

Jim - Yeah, but it's a really interactive type of thing and I can imagine with three of you. So that's way hot. Let's see here. I'm going through my notes in reverse today, it seems like. All right, here's something. So, you've been in for a while, almost 16 years. What's one area, or it could be multiple areas, that you could look at in the industry and think that could be made better? And if so, how would you go about doing that if you had to have a pet cause?

Natasha - Good question.

Jim - And that could have to do with your pay platforms, prejudices, male versus cis, versus trans, versus female… all that. We've all heard the debate on almost everything.

Natasha - I honestly think that as an industry we get a lot of heat for the possibility of minors stumbling upon our stuff. And I think that every website should really try to make sure that can't happen. That way those of us who aren't minors and are doing legitimate porn, we don't get in trouble for that kind of thing. I don't know how you would do that, though, technologically speaking. I don't know, they could use something like facial recognition on websites with identification. Because there are a lot of scammers too who steal our photos. So, there's just a lot of ways to get around and misuse porn. And those of us who don't misuse it get into some shit because of that. So, it'd be nice to have some better security measures to keep those douchebags out so the rest of us can keep thriving.

‘This goes to the heart of nearly every matter that has to do with keeping the adult industry alive. We all remember the MasterCard deal at Pornhub a year and a half ago. In many ways, that was a symptom of a company wanting to maintain what they believed to be a safe distance away from pornography. Still, it had less to do with porn itself, and more to do with some of the more unsavoury perceptions that the public has come to equate with adult cinema, such as human trafficking, underage models, and unauthorized videos being posted.

There is nothing glamorous, sexy, or “o.k.” with kids looking at, or being involved with any of pornography. Our industry is termed the “adult industry” for good reason. If you’re under 18 years of age, you have no business here- none at all. I appreciated that Natasha was so upfront and direct about this. Of the many things that could be done to improve adult, none are so basic as maintaining safeguards in keeping minors away from possible harm or exploitation that could result from their being exposed to XXX materials. Natasha is right on target here, and underage porn consumption should be treated with the same fervency as is underage drinking or smoking. Yes, we love our industry, but we also acknowledge that it’s reserved for adults. No offense kiddos, but you must be over the age of 18. No exceptions. By doing so, we will help keep the adult industry safe and profitable.

Jim - Yeah. I don't know. I think it's right in line of just trying to keep the business healthy from the inside, because that's just a huge, huge no-no and a dirty word is this business of somehow minors being involved with it or non-consenting people. So not only watching it, but we all see all these videos have been taken down and rightly so. If somebody objects, then take it down. But I think for a long time it was just, like you say, too many people had too much access to either upload or watch.

Natasha - Well, I mean, what's the platform going to do? Look at every single video? I don't know. I just think that all the content platforms, even like YouTube and everything else, they should just find a way to prevent... It would just be, I think, with facial recognition. If you want to make an account on this website, we need to get your ID … and some dating apps actually do that. They will verify your face to make sure that the face matches what's on your ID, and then you can't be deleted as a potential fake person.

Jim - Yeah, I think that's not a bad idea. I do know, and you do as well, I'm sure, it's possible, but it's very, very difficult for somebody to open a site and just start throwing all kinds of content up there because the identification, the verification processes are pretty stringent on the producer side, but they can...

Natasha - But they can fake it. I don't know, it just seems like they can fake it. And I'm talking more about scammers at this point. I get messages that like, "Oh, look, this person said that they were you because they showed me your ID." And I'm like, "Okay, well, send me a picture of the ID," and it's a headshot from one of my pornos and they faked the rest of the ID and just typed in some information on like Photoshop and the person's like, "Oh, it's an ID, I guess it must really be her."

Natasha - If there's a will, there's a way and they're definitely willing. So, something intelligent needs to be put in place.

Jim - Like you said, there's always going to be scammers. But certainly, for the people that are signing up to view it, the age gate isn't always quite enough. I get it. So, what else do you have going on that's coming up brand new that I have not mentioned that we want to talk about today?

Natasha - Well, I've been shooting a lot of scenes this first quarter of the year, and they haven't all come out yet. The Nuru massage scene came out. I think I have another scene coming out at the beginning of April. So, I'm just waiting for those to come out so I can promote them and share them with my fans. And until then, I'm really just making my own content and doing my camming. I'm going to hop on in a little over an hour and that's it for me for right now.

Jim - Cool.

Natasha - But I am planning on either starting a TikTok or a Twitch, but I can't decide which one yet. I'm leaning more towards Twitch.

Jim – I'm on both and I'm a loser on both.

Natasha - Oh, no.

Jim - I think I got 34 followers on TikTok.

Natasha - I'll promote you. {Both Laughing}

Jim - Thank you so much! {Continued Laughter from Both}I’ll definitely look for you and follow you. I appreciate that, that would be way cool. But seriously though, my content sucks on TikTok. Take my word for it.

Natasha - Okay.

Jim - Let me ask you this. Five years from now, ten years from now, where do you see yourself in the business?

Natasha - I see myself as one of the best, if not the best, MILF and just still doing what I'm doing now. Like I said, I'm always kind of evolving and making little changes so that my job fits me, and I fit my job. So whatever transformations are going to happen in the next five, ten years, I'll just adapt to those, and there's really no telling. I just know that I want to be like the best that I can be.

Jim - Well, that's all that anybody could ever hope. If we could all do that, then we would all be just fine.

Natasha - Yeah, I mean, it's easier said than done, but I don't know, I love working and I am a workaholic. So, I think that that's within reach if I play my cards right.

Jim - I think anything is in reach for you. I just clicked on Twitter. Uh hmm… 767.2 thousand followers… does that mess with your head a little bit? Did you ever think that you would realistically get to the point that you're at today when you started?

Natasha - So when I started, there wasn't too much talk of Twitter or Instagram or even Pornhub.

Jim - And I get that. I'm just using it as an example. I think that we can safely say that you're famous. So that's kind of where I was going with that.

Natasha - Yeah, when I first started, I didn't even know that there were porn awards. So, like right at the very beginning, my thoughts were not how much of a star can I, or will I, or have I become? It's more like I just took it as it came. And then one day people started calling me a legend. And I was like, "Oh, really? Okay, that's super cool." Then I started taking it more seriously because they were taking me more seriously. And I guess that that made me realize how much higher I could climb if I just worked harder. So, it doesn't mess with my head, but sometimes I have to remember to come back down to earth, if that makes sense. It's just Twitter.

Jim - Yeah, it's just Twitter. { Both Laughing}

Natasha - But I mean, I do love it. Haha. I'm not going to lie. It's fucking awesome. I didn't grow up with a cell phone in my hands or anything, so to me, real human connection is still more face to face and social media, it's like a secondary way of connecting with people. So, it's still just like social media.

Jim - Yeah. And I get that. I'm actually taken a few days off from really posting anything. I try to do that once in a while, not nearly enough, but whenever you do it, I think you come away from it feeling a little bit better.

Natasha - You said that you take a break every once in a while, to feel better?

Jim - I do. I kind of took one this week, just kind of unintended. I don't know if I've posted on Twitter for three days, but I probably will at some point this weekend. But after you kind of come off that you almost feel a little bit re-energized, re-centered, re-focused, if you will.

Natasha - I feel like my engagement, even if I don't tweet for a few days there because I need a social media break or I just maybe don't have anything to share right that moment, and then I come back, I feel like the fans engage with my content even more.

Jim - Yeah. And I've heard that from a lot of people. I think it's true.

Natasha - Yeah. And then when I do that, when I leave social media for a little bit, like a few days or something, I'll notice that my other numbers will rise. So maybe they're not getting their Natasha Nice fix on my Twitter, so they go look for it somewhere else, like on my OnlyFans or Pornhub or something. I haven't figured out all of the numbers, but yeah, I think it's good to do that once in a while for a few reasons. But if you're working then you're going to have a lot to promote too. So, it's whatever works for you.

Jim - Okay. So, you just mentioned something that's been in the face of all my notes all day long and in this interview all day long. Your name, Natasha Nice, how did that happen when you started? Did you come up with that, or was that just something that had been a childhood nickname, or had it always been with you in some way? I was just curious.

Natasha - My first agent asked me what I wanted my name to be, and I told him I wanted it to be my real name. And he said, "No, that's a bad idea." So, he's like, "Come up with a name that you like that you think is sexy." Well, at the time I had just graduated high school, and so I thought like, "Okay, well, who's sexy?" And there was this girl, Natasha, and she was the sexiest girl in school, and she danced sexy at the dances and wore white pants with black thongs. And I just thought she was super-hot. So, I was like, "Okay, well, what about Natasha?" And then he's like, "Okay." And then he looked around to think what would sound good with Natasha. And he said like, "Well, you have really nice tits, and every time you take off your shirt, guys think, 'Oh, nice,' so let's call you Natasha Nice." And it was like, "Yeah, I like that, that works."

Jim - I was going to say it's a nice name, but that would be funny. { Both Laughing} It's a good name.

Natasha - Yeah, yeah.

Jim - Because it's not dirty, it's not weird. You can say it in polite company and people would be like, "Oh, well, who is this Natasha Nice that you speak of?" Haha

Natasha - Yes, exactly.

Jim – So… I like it and I was curious to know how you came up with it. Cool. I don’t know about you, but I had fun. I want to give a special thanks to Erika Icon from The Rub PR for setting this up, to your agency over at Adult Talent Managers LA, and also again, to you Natasha for taking some time out. We want everyone to follow you on Twitter and everywhere else, especially your OnlyFans and you on cam at Cammodels.

Natasha – Okay, thanks so much for the interview.

Jim Steele - Thank you and have a great evening.

Natasha Nice - You too. Bye.

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