The pornstar who fucks her fans, Sabrina Deep is in town. She was kind enough to invite us over to talk about the World Bukkake Tour, everyone's secret kinky side, and how she's not as selfish as she thought.
Sabrina's in New York to do the Howard Stern Show, meet up with her Twitter followers, and shoot her Fanstalkers series. Click through the gallery to read about how she got started in porn, the phone calls she has with her fans, and why she loves gangbangs so much.
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Fleshbot: When I was doing some research about you, you told Hustler that you didn't do your first gangbang until 2005. So what were you doing professionally before that?
Sabrina Deep: Everyone asks me that! Everyone's so curious what I was doing before.
Well, you just sort of came out of nowhere with this seventy-seven…
Yeah, I'm from another planet, in the Beta Reticula System. And this is actually a social experiment that we're running.
As an alien, you're curious….
On your planet, yes. No, I actually used to work a lot of different jobs, I really did. The main was retail, selling expensive items to fancy people and I also supplemented the income, I suppose, with working in tobacco fields.
So, how did you get started then?
It was actually because I started going online with my husband into chat rooms-single chat rooms-and we'd turn on the camera and we would show off doing sexual things, because we enjoyed it. And then when the number of people watching grew to in the thousands, we thought, ‘cause we were living in London, which is an incredibly expensive city to live in, we thought, hey, let's put together a crappy little website and whenever we're having sex we'll just turn on the camera. It was never really intended to be a full-time career for me. It was really just gonna be something that, if we could make a bit of extra money from it, great, you know, bonus. But it ended up, for some reason, taking off. Also, a lot of people in the industry who saw it right off the bat, they all said to me, oh, you're not gonna last three months, I give her two months, and that sort of like, drove me, you know, screw you, I can do this. So we just started upgrading and then it got to the point where it was like, we need to bring in other people or end it, and we talked about that for a long time, and we both agreed that it turned us on and we were comfortable doing it, so… And then I did my first gangbang.
What was the moment you realized you wanted to do group sex?
I always wanted to do group sex. When I was younger, really younger, I used to watch porn on the satellite dish all the time, and my favorite was always the group sex, and I always had fantasies of it. Of being that girl that I saw in these movies. Honestly, it was just something I always knew I wanted to do. Something that always excited me.
So then, your first gangbang, was that the one in 2005?
No, that wasn't the big one. The first one I did was just four guys, maybe five. I was, you know, really kind of nervous about it, and it actually went really, really well, and I got a lot of really great feedback on it, and that just excited me to no end. Then I just wanted to do more! We decided since we were going to be taking the website to a new level we should plan some sort of event that would, that we could use for promotion. And so we sat down one night, drinking wine and discussing, what are our possibilities, what could we do, and that's how we decided we were gonna do this giant gangbang which eventually became the London gangbang, Looking back, it was a bit megalomaniac. I don't think I could pull it off today, without a whole crew-I have no idea how I managed to do what I did because I really pulled it together in just a couple of months with seventy-seven guys showing up, all sort of at perfect times. People were organizing themselves, it was incredible that it came together the way it did. I think it was really a case of, because we were so new to the industry, there was never a doubt in our mind. Whereas today, having four years of this, when I think about if I had to do that, I wouldn't even-there would be so much work involved, I would probably need six months to try and put in a team of people to put it all together, so it was beginner's luck. It was actually a really great experience.
[Photo courtesy of Sabrina Deep]
How do you physically stay fit enough to do these sorts of things? To, you know, fuck as many men for as many hours as you do-do you have routines to prepare for it?
I actually do do yoga. And I really like yoga. If you're asking me specifically, I usually do high-intensity interval training because I find that that really helps to strengthen the core muscles and yet I don't end up looking like a bodybuilder if I don't want to. Core muscles are really important, but no one's ever asked me that, and it is something I have to think about all the time because after the London gangbang, I wasn't working out before I did that one, and I lasted, I had tons of energy to do it, but I realized if I was gonna keep doing this I needed to start increasing my energy levels and now they're just through the roof.
How much downtime do you have between events?
Not a lot. Especially right now, because I'm really on the go, and I don't really need a lot of downtime. I could really use a massage, you know, right after. That's always my big complaint, is I need a massage, somebody massage me. That's the most difficult thing to deal with is like, the tension, ‘cause you've got a lot of guys like, beating on your body. And I don't mean with their cocks-that feels great-but when they sort of grab your shoulders, or they're holding your head, and you're in the doggy position with one guy behind and one guy in front of you, it's-thank god for yoga, really, at that point. My spine is way more flexible than it was even when I was born now, I think. But other than that, there's no recovery needed. There's always that misconception that I'm somehow in a lot of pain-somebody said that another girl that they know that did a massive gangbang, she had to ice her pussy afterwards. To me, if that happened, I wouldn't do it. I don't like pain. I don't wanna get hurt. So there's really no downtime, I'm sort of right back into the tour, or shooting for deepsabrina again ‘cause I have to update my own website, even when I'm working with other people.
Do you prefer group sex to one on one all the time, or just when you're on tour?
No, I like group sex for what it is. Yeah, I like both of them. I really enjoy both of them. ‘Cause I just like the sex. But I like them for totally different reasons.
Like what?
Well, it's a totally different thing. Gangbangs, I like it ‘cause it's kinky. It's twisted, it appeals to that early fantasy that turned me on in my head. And that's always just stuck with me to be my thing. But I love sex. I really, really enjoy sex. And that's why I have sex with my fans, because I don't want sex where, okay, you're going to make X amount of money and so is the guy who's going to have sex with you, and this is his second shoot today so let's try to make it quick, that's boring, that's not the kind of pleasure that my body is seeking. It's a job, then. So, I have sex with my fans because I know they already want to have sex with me, and then we both enjoy it. And there's no pressure to perform or make it look a certain way, so it's nice.
You've talked about doing what you do to show people that you're a porn star who truly loves to have sex. Do you think that that's a rarity? In the industry, do you think you're an anomaly, or do you think that generally porn stars are women who love to have sex?
Well, I honestly think that a lot of the women who are doing porn are doing it because they like to have sex. And they often say that they're doing it for the money, because they feel like that's what society expects them to say. But I honestly, when I watch some of them, I have to think they're enjoying it, they're not great actors for the parts of the movie that aren't sex. [Laughing.] So there's no way they suddenly, from the opening scene to the part where they got naked and started humping somebody, that they suddenly became these amazing actresses. There definitely are women in the industry that are doing it because they think that they're gonna become rich or famous or, and they usually last about three months. That's what we know to be true in this industry of a lot of women, but the ones that really enjoy the sex, they stay, and I never believe it when they say oh, well, I did it for the money.
Do you want sort of dispel those ideas, those stereotypes?
Yeah, I do. I want to do away with that. I think that sex is something that is a response that our bodies naturally have, and that's okay, and it feels good, and that's okay, and we should embrace that. We shouldn't have all this stigmatism stuck to it like it's a bad thing or it should only be done with certain people in your life or in certain situation. I'm not saying go to church and have sex in the pews, but if you're looking for something more, you should be allowed to explore that.
[Photo courtesy of Sabrina Deep]
So, you now give your personal phone number on your website. How long ago did you do that?
Oh, god, it's probably been a year now.
Is it hard to field all those calls, like, do you try and get back to everybody you possibly can, or…?
I just pick up the phone. I don't have an answering service, so I don't return calls. If I haven't picked up I'm probably spending two hours doing my hair or some ridiculously boring thing like that, or I'm on cam with somebody. In all honesty, the feeling is really that I put my phone number up there and I'm gonna be flooded with tons of annoying calls and it's the exact opposite. Most of the calls I'd say I get, guys hang up. They get too nervous, or they don't know what to say to me. And they often admit it to me, they'll call me back a couple of times before they have the nerve to speak to me. And it's really sweet, these guys are really gentle, they really like me, and it's almost like, you remember in high school, when you'd just sort of punch a girl, that you liked? [Mock-punching.] That was like the thing that we did, we'd just punch each other because we didn't know how to flirt, we couldn't verbalize, like, ‘Wow, you're stunningly beautiful today,' it's that kind of feeling. It's really fun. And usually they say things like, ‘I don't want to keep you, are you busy?' They don't abuse the privilege, and it actually can be really, really fun.
That's really interesting, that it's not like a barrage of…
Yeah, porn stars are often saying that they're afraid of their fans, I think that that's a common image, the porn star is unreachable, and the fans are a bunch of scary wankers who only sit at home in front of their computers and watch porn and the reality is that most men watch porn. That includes your brothers and your fathers and your uncles and all the men in your life that you love, and these are just regular guys for the most part. And then if, it's never actually happened, but if you do get that one sort of psycho stalker guy or the one guy who doesn't seem to know when it's enough, it's a telephone. You can hang it up. So it doesn't hurt, it's quite lovely.
You've never had a problem, like at any of your events?
No. I absolutely haven't had a problem. The biggest problem that I contend with is if a guy just can't perform. I feel really bad for the guys because it is a really normal thing, but it's really hard on their egos. The professional porn studs that do this for a living, they all have problems performing. And if you showed up at a gangbang and it turns out it's not your thing, or you feel a bit of pressure because there's a whole bunch of cameras and there's a boom over your head and a bunch of lighting and stuff when you're about to have sex, I think that's a totally normal reaction.
Do you think you'll keep doing the Bukkake Tours or are you looking to do something different?
I want to keep doing it, the Bukkake Tours. Most of the bukkake parties I have aren't even filmed, it's really just something that, it's like, pleasure for me to do it. The only thing, the World Bukkake Tour is completely free and open to any men that are of age and tested and it is taxing on me, not physically, but financially, to have to fly all over the world all of the time. I do have to take that into consideration, it's not something I'm charging these guys to do or it's a moneymaker for me, it really is a party, it really is what I enjoy doing. I have to wager that in at some point, but no, I don't have any intentions to stop doing it at this point.
Do you have a special interest in bukkake or is it more of a way to satisfy as many people as you can?
Yeah, I do. It does lend itself to that nicely, so it sort of becomes a win-win. But I do have an interest in bukkake, and pretty much anything the Japanese do. I just love what they do, with porn and their whole twisted outlook on life. I mean, twisted for me, probably totally normal for them, but it's just so different and exotic to me and the bukkake thing seemed like a lot of fun, and really messy, and yeah, it felt like it would be something that would be really satisfying, or I would hate it. So I had to give it a try, and I ended up really enjoying it. It's one of those things that's really hard to talk about with people, like people ask me, ‘Why do you like it?' I don't really know why.
What do you think drives the men who enjoy it, then? Do you think it's a possession thing?
I mean, it could be. There's probably different reasons for every guy that's there, we're all so different from each other, it's really hard to say. For some guys it probably is, they just like to see a woman in that position, sort of being a slave to all this cum and men, or some of them, they just think it's really dirty and twisted, and they enjoy that. And some of them don't care as much about the bukkake, they just want a blowjob from Sabrina Deep. If you were to ask, there's probably a whole rainbow of fruit-flavored reasons why guys want to come to the bukkake parties, but it boils down to, it's that sort of mindtwist, when you're having sex, it's that sort of kink level that makes it more interesting.
[Photo courtesy of Sabrina Deep]
Do you think that most people are kinkier than they think or they let on?
Yeah, I think so. I have to think so, or else I'm really a freak in life, so the only way I can justify this behavior is to think that secretly everybody is. I mean, the porn sells. So someone else out there is enjoying it. It can't be handful of guys. This is a big industry, so I think that this is the evidence right there that a lot of people are into it but not admitting it. And I think we've all got those fantasies. Even fantasies we would not want to share with other people at all. Or ever even want to live out. Fantasies can sometimes be really crazy things, it doesn't necessarily mean that you want to actually live them out, it's in your head, it's safe, you're in control of the situation, it always plays into exactly what turns you on.
Do you feel like you're, you give people an opportunity to realize these fantasies that they can't realize otherwise in their lives?
I never thought of it that way. I guess I do.
You know, it's this safe situation, you're there…
God, it's been really selfish up to now, especially since it's been for me, living out my fantasy, but I never thought about them… No, I suppose I am. Especially the whole, I mean, who's not fantasizing about doing it with a porn star. Every guy who's watching a porn star is imagining he is the porn star, or he's the guy fucking the porn star. So, you know, you're probably never going to get to enjoy being the porn star, if you're a man, well, maybe some men, but I give them that opportunity to find out that we are a group of people that really likes sex, and we don't mind showing it off, and I want them to be a part of that with me.
Other than the tour, do you have any other things lined up? Professional shoots, other events-you're going on Howard Stern tomorrow.
Going on Howard Stern tomorrow. I've got my FanBang which is being released, I believe they're saying before Christmas, but the trailer for that has just come out, at metromovies.com, so people can see it there, and then we've got the Fanstalkers series to finish up, and that will be released as well, that's going to be two separate movies, as well, and then I've still got the rest of my tour to do this year, and anything else that is in the works, which there are things, I'm not really ready to announce them officially at this point, ‘cause obviously not all the details have been hammered out, but yes, there is still more in the pipeline.
And they'll be on your blog, when you're ready.
Yeah, of course, they'll be on my website, or the World Bukkake Tour website or if you follow me, at twitter.com/sabrinadeep, so as soon as things happen, I post them.