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    Image of WoreItWell WoreItWell
    07/06/09

    In reply to Extreme Associates Team Sentenced To One Year In Prison
    Jeeeeeeeeeeesus.
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    Image of FalconryoftheEroticVariety FalconryoftheEroticVariety
    07/02/09

    In reply to Extreme Associates Team Sentenced To One Year In Prison
    sad.
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    Image of Iamcuriousblue Iamcuriousblue
    06/19/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Situation Not As Dire As Previously Reported
    Trackback/shameless plug:


    Pro-Porn Activism: AbbyWinters Raided!

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    Image of Iamcuriousblue Iamcuriousblue
    06/19/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Situation Not As Dire As Previously Reported
    "The story goes that making "obscene" films is illegal in the state G Media is located in. Owning them or viewing them isn't, just making them.. meaning it would be a very flimsy case."


    Doubly so when you add the fact that prostitution and brothels are legal in Victoria. So here you have a situation where its legal to buy and sell sex, to profit from it in at least some circumstances, and legal to possess and view porn. But actually have somebody fuck on camera and sell the product and you're breaking the law. I think if somebody was more inclined to fight this through the legal system, they could easily get that law overturned on the basis that all other the elements of porn are entirely legal.

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    Image of QadimTalos QadimTalos
    06/19/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Situation Not As Dire As Previously Reported
    The story goes that making "obscene" films is illegal in the state G Media is located in. Owning them or viewing them isn't, just making them.. meaning it would be a very flimsy case.

    Of course, there's plenty of other skeletons in the AW cupboard, but most of them don't involve technically illegal material.
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    Image of SavieroImbicile SavieroImbicile
    06/18/09

    In reply to Liked Amia Moretti? You'll Love Amia Miley!
    god she's hot.
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    Image of logruszed logruszed
    06/17/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Situation Not As Dire As Previously Reported
    No idea, but to go before a judge to get a warrant you have to have some kind of indication or allegation of criminal activity. This can be material evidence or sworn testimony or an anonymous tip.


    Now if it's an anonymous tip then a judge signing off on a warrant usually depends on the nature of the allegation (and the social climate where the judge is working). A judge is unlikely to sign off on a warrant if some tipster calls in and says you're smoking pot in your home, but if they say you're doing CP then due the the nature of the complaint they are more likely to issue the warrant; particularly if you're in the adult entertainment biz because it's an easy way to appease your conservative constituents, plus nobody wants to be the judge who fails to respond to such an allegation.

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    Image of Ayleron Ayleron
    06/17/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Situation Not As Dire As Previously Reported
    What kind of allegations?
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    Image of spuy767 spuy767
    06/18/09

    @Ayleron: I'd say anonymous tip that the girls are not of age?
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    Image of logruszed logruszed
    06/17/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Situation Not As Dire As Previously Reported
    If someone makes a formal allegation to the authorities of wrongdoing then a raid is inevitable but does not confirm any actual wrongdoing.
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    Image of Ms Naughty Ms Naughty
    06/17/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Offices Raided By The Cops
    Further legal clarification: It is legal to watch, own and buy porn in Australia but if you want to buy DVDs you need to buy them from the 2 territories because selling X rated movies is illegal in the states. Legal to buy, not legal to sell. This is a law from 1984 (the year, not the Orwellian book. Although it might as well be).


    Each state has "classification" i.e. censorship laws regarding the sale of adult material. Hidden in those laws is a rule stating you cannot create an "objectionable film."


    Everyone's been either not known about or been ignoring this until now. The police would probably have done nothing except that the paper went on a witch hunt. A while ago it printed a nasty attack on AW.


    There is no constitutional guarantee of free speech in Australia.

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    Image of GavinSwoosh GavinSwoosh
    06/16/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Offices Raided By The Cops
    Watching or owning porn is not illegal in Australia, is is illegal to sell X rated material in all but two territories. That said, it is sold just about everywhere.

    The AW thing is about a couple of disgruntled employees and a newspaper "crusader".
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    Image of MalzyWheels MalzyWheels
    06/16/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Offices Raided By The Cops
    Gee, the world is plagued by terrorism, regimes who beat down their citizenry, famine, pestilence, dishonesty, inhumanity, and war: What can we do to stop all this?


    I know...Let's bust people for having sex!


    Why, it's....it's BRILLIANT!!!

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    Image of PatrickSneep PatrickSneep
    06/16/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Offices Raided By The Cops
    Man, they're al most as bad as Mississippi.
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    Image of Nintenboy01 Nintenboy01
    06/16/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Offices Raided By The Cops
    So what crime did they commit, if any? Underage models or something?
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    Image of Lux Alptraum Lux Alptraum
    06/16/09

    @Nintenboy01: "Detectives raided five premises as part of Operation Refuge, seizing computers containing footage of women allegedly performing explicit sex acts, which are illegal to produce in Victoria."


    My impression is that simply making porn in Australia is illegal--though there are secondary concerns that some of the models may have been underage.

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    Image of BradleyEurylochus BradleyEurylochus
    06/16/09

    For a while now it has been illegal to produce or watch porn in Australia. For most of that time though the law wasn't enforced, all though now it seems that they are enforcing those laws.
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    Image of Lux Alptraum Lux Alptraum
    06/16/09

    @BradleyEurylochus: Thanks for the clarification. I'm kinda surprised to hear that, given that Abby Winters isn't the only Aussie porn company (that, and they weren't exactly secret about what they were doing).
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    Image of piggythewonderdog piggythewonderdog
    06/16/09

    @Lux Alptraum: I'd be curious as to what other companies are based in Australia and what their revenues are. It seems that AW is a company that's well-known globally, and they have healthy revenues. Big revenue equals big scrutiny, and AW is clearly being made an example of...
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    Image of Lux Alptraum Lux Alptraum
    06/16/09

    @piggythewonderdog: Girls Out West is Australian too, if I'm not mistaken. No idea on their revenues.
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    Image of Elevenses Elevenses
    06/16/09

    In reply to Abby Winters Offices Raided By The Cops
    "the police e-crime squad began sifting through mountains of electronic material seized during the raids" Jesus, if they wanted to look at Abby Winters porn so much, they should have just bought a membership like everyone else.
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    Image of BadPipsewah BadPipsewah
    06/16/09

    @Elevenses: It kind of puts this quote from a police detective in a different light, doesn't it?


    "We're very satisfied with the content we've secured."


    Yeah, I'll bet you are. ;-)

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