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03/31/09
I am just proud to see so much commenting.
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04/01/09
I don't know why people are doing that. Apparently there are gobs of Evan Stone fans out there, people for whom no porn is complete without a close up of some sweaty dude's ass.
No thanks.
I like porn because I like GIRLS. I like girls to the point where I don't like seeing them with guys old enough to be their fathers, with dated tribal tattoos, hair plugs and pec implants grunting away and then doing their damnedest to jizz in their eyes.
I'm not opposed to men in porn. I am opposed to seeing the men in porn we seem to be stuck with. They're either 50+ years old and have been doing porn for approximately as long as I've been alive, or they look like they're a couple shots of bourbon away from being the best part of an episode of COPS.
Nobody should have to put up with that. Not porn fans and not the girls themselves.
03/31/09
What a misleading headline though eh? What I got from the article is she has too much work to do anything.
I also find that if a woman is "into" gaming, Civilization has something to do with it(I had to delete CIV) because all I wanted to do was nuke Paris, but I digress).
I don't think the question is if she would be with some geeky slobbo simply because he plays games. It is that she like playing the games. I mean seriously, She plays a few video games so her tastes in men are super nerdy?
naw, she (and any woman that likes gaming) is going for the the guy she is attracted too. The best you can get out of it if you are ALREADY that-guy is that you could stay in and play a rousing game on your sofa a bit and then fuck. Myabe she'd have your back on WOW. That would be cool. I like my games too, (EA's NHL series) but I am no nerd, so there goes THAT stereotype, Nyeh!
Any my personal favorite line from the interview "From what I remember of life drawing, genitals are the most difficult part of the human body to get right." yep, but I keep trying!
03/31/09
That's the thing i wanna get across here. Not necessarily This girl but girls who look like this. i Hate to say it but all these "hot gamer girls" you see on these here internets don't look like any ive ever met in the real world. Then again it's impossibly silly to look at a person based on this One interest.. but when it comes to the hardcore gaming community... the people you see commenting on the original article i can't help but think they're the kind that you'd stereotype as fat, greasy and covered in week old cheetoh dust. gross.
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03/31/09
Nice job, girlie.
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03/30/09
what I consider worse: (threadjacking!)
recent porn looks so static. is it due to the new camera system? why isn't the guy propelling her all over the place anymore? Rocco started on the sofa, crossed the carpet and ended up under the piano. but nowadays the new breed of girl (™ © ® Sasha Grey) are in control of the scene.
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03/31/09
She named Civilization as one of her faves!
03/31/09
however, if you read the interview you'll see that i freely admit that i don't have time for games and if i did it would be the divide and conquer nations type. on my laptop.
so stfu.
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03/31/09
Acts? I don't think so. Especially if you are actually successful in life.
03/31/09
I do love how the commenter places himself well within the old stereotype though!
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03/31/09
Stoya, you are an undeniably attractive woman. A person whom I would pay (and have) paid to see naked.
However, that does not mean I want to see you getting physical with the kinds of guys who "perform" in porn. I've shared my opinions of those guys many, many times already: They're gross.
Now, would I pay to watch Stoya prancing around without doing anything explicitly dirty? Yup. I would. Would I pay to watch Stoya and a few ladies have an enjoyable time together? Yup.
But given the choice between Stoya and a poorly tattooed stunt dick, and no Stoya at all, I think I'd go with the no Stoya option. The dudes are just that disgusting.
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03/31/09
Ok maybe i should have said "how we're assumed to act" Cuz in most instances when a girl finds out that a person play video games, read comics and *insert random geek interest here* they get looked at like they're immature.
03/31/09
fair enough. Not all gamers are like that. I can't help but feel that most are.. and while the hip gamer thing is in right now i can't see that lasting forever. (yeah i know we dont all have neck beards... some of us are can't even grow a regular kind...)
03/31/09
Yeah.
04/01/09
I know precisely one person who is overweight, could do with better hygiene and does actually have a neck beard (he has also looked exactly the same for about 10 years...)
I think the fat, sweaty nerd thing is a stereotype thats stuck around for too long :/
04/01/09
Maybe it's a matter of location? i hate to say it but most of the gemer types i know are look not too far from how theyre stereotyped to
03/30/09
I'm just not sure if they're more riled up because she's hot or because she's more intelligent.
Doofuses.
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03/31/09
I liked this comment the best
A bull fucking shit. Woman are such bitches. "I'd date a nerd guy, no really I would, no really I would." Oh yeah? I'm calling your bluff. Until I see some pictures of you with a overweight neckbeard man-child you need to shut the fuck up.
This gave me an idea, what about a porn company where all of the male pornstars are replaced with "overweight neckbeard man-children"? I'd either make millions, or the company would tank because everyone would want to participate but no one would watch.
03/30/09
All Hail our Supreme Commandress!
03/30/09
There needs to be a new category on Fleshbot to just kill the disgusting straight porn guy posts.
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03/30/09
I hate porn guys. They disgust me. Unfortunately there's no filter here to get rid of the straight porn guys. There should be.
If I wanna see some hairy dude with prison tats abuse attractive women, I'm pretty sure I can get my fix for that from the douchebag in the apartment across the street from mine, any day of the week.
03/30/09
03/30/09
I've never met or heard of a straight women porn fan who is fond of the work of a straight porn actor (or as I refer to them "recent parolees"). Show a straight woman pictures of porn guys such as those on this site and I'll bet that 99% of them won't have any kind of positive reaction to any of the guys who want anything to do with women.
03/30/09
Back to the point, you pretty much cannot make straight porn without male actors (you actually literally can't make it, but since lesbian porn is counted as straight porn more often than not, I won't say it is absolutely impossible). They are as much a part of the porn industry (and it can be argued as important of a part) as the women. I can guarantee you many of these men have at the very least hundreds, if not thousands or tens of thousands, of female admirers. They are here, they aren't going anywhere, and you know it, and to demean them like you are seems a little childish and mean.
And on a lighter note:
Lisa: [to Maxxx] You pig, you're responsible for degrading all of those women.
Clark: Equally degradable in pornographic films.
Lisa: Men are always in a position of power.
Rodgers: They're the ones who want the product so bad, they're the victims.
Lisa: Well, it exploits men by exploiting women.
Clark: Hence, it exploits people.
03/30/09
Either that or you're hetero/homophobic, depending on genre.
03/30/09
Well, let us get this out of the way: I don't like straight porn. I don't like seeing the guys they get to film scenes sex scenes with women. In a lot of cases, the action is fake (money shot), it's unpalatable (spitting on gentials as "lube") and in other cases it's just disturbing (creampies, Max Hardcore-anything, gagging etc).
My original reason for posting was that I am glad I can appreciate a post about Stoya. I'm still cool with Stoya. However, I would love to see Fleshbot broken down a little bit more with solo woman and lesbian porn postings separate from the purportedly "straight" category of porn girls with knuckle-dragging viagra jockeys.
03/30/09
I do, however, dislike seeing the porn chicks I do like (such as Stoya) being despoiled by men who look like they just got off a 5 - 10 stretch for manslaughter at San Quentin, which is my general opinion of straight porn's male talent pool.
I will give Evan Stone some credit for occasionally being funny in porn movies, as is Ron Jeremy, but that doesn't mean I wanna see either of them naked.
03/30/09
Second, there are tons of solo and lesbian posts/images on Fleshbot (the Babes being a perfect example). The reason you wont see Stoya in most of them is because she doesn't do that much solo/lesbian work anymore. But when she does do lesbian stuff, it's trumpeted just as much as anything else (for example, [fleshbot.com] ). I don't think it needs to be separated because it's straight porn, just like everything else that is under that tag.
And more to the point, your second comment was completely pointless. What exactly is the problem with showing the two men she was having sex with in an article about her first released boy/boy/girl scene (which is what I'm pretty sure you are referring to)?
P.S. - Look at the tag. The vast majority of the headlining pictures used for stories about her don't feature any men in them (either solo or girl/girl [or in one instance boy/girl/girl but you can't see the guy]).
03/30/09
03/30/09
There's a "Gay" fleshbot and a "Straight" Fleshbot now. I think we need entirely guy-less Fleshbot, too. I honestly don't think there's anybody out there who really wants to see any of those guys, or at least any more of their bodies than needs to be to get their penis in frame.
I think I've made it clear that I don't.
And while I'm commenting, more Fleshbot coverage of the studios that actually do the great work of female-exclusive porn (e.g. Girlfriend Films, Sweetheart Video) would also be nice.
03/31/09
I think I've made it clear that I don't.
@likefunbutnot:
I'm sure they're many people out there who don't want to see BBW or interracial porn either. So, should they make a Chubby-less Fleshbot and a whites only Fleshbot as well?
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Those are subcategories within a wider branch of common sexuality. I don't think that's the same thing as wanting "just the girls." There's already a "just the guys" option for people who are into that sort of thing.
Frankly if straight porn guys were not so completely revolting it would not be necessary. But they are. Let's face it: porn guys are basically a life support system for a penis. I don't wanna see that. I can't believe anybody wants to see that.
03/31/09
Gay porn and straight porn are two completely separate industries. That's why they're separated on the site. The majority of people who want to see women alone also want to see women with men--and those who don't are generally able to just skip over the things they don't like, in the same way that people skip over, say, tattooed girls or creampies or anal if it's not to their liking.
It's generally pretty obvious which posts are going to have men in them. If it's really such a burden on you, I recommend making use of the following tag pages:
fleshbot.com/tag/lesbian
fleshbot.com/tag/babes
03/31/09
So to use some examples brought up earlier
No BBW - fleshbot.com/tag/not:bbw/
No interracial - fleshbot.com/tag/not:interracial/
That is if those things actually bother you that much.
03/31/09
I assure you they do bother me. I wouldn't continue posting about it if I didn't.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any tag or combination of tags that will assuredly filter out straight porn guys while leaving other content untouched. That depends entirely on the whim of whichever editor posted the content, doesn't it?
Using Lux's suggestion to just browse with specific tags is likewise broken, since there are tons of interesting posts that aren't going to get any of the small number of relevant tags I might bother to keep up with.
This issue isn't particularly a problem on, say, IO9 or Gizmodo; it's not likely that anyone on those sites feels so strongly about a particular subset of topics that going to cause any real-world level of revulsion, but it's certainly possible here on Fleshbot.
Also note that I'm not suggesting anyone else stop looking at whatever the hell happens to interest anyone else. I'm just saying there need to be better controls over the Fleshbot user experience.
03/31/09
shut SHUT the fuck up.
03/31/09
This is a valid issue and really, it reveals a larger problem with Fleshbot.
03/31/09
There's pretty much no way that you can report on the straight porn industry without talking about/showing the male talent. And even if you could, it would be stupid/silly and pretty much sexist. And there's no good reason to do it. There are tons of solo posts (again, highlighted by the babes tag), and tons of lesbian posts (again, the lesbian tag). Everything else is porn having to do with at least one man and at least one woman. They are equally important in the act of intercourse, so they should both be seen/reported on. To be honest, if you have a problem with that, then maybe you should find a site that focuses less on the heterosexual portion of the industry.
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04/01/09
Other sites where I participate, such as Slashdot, there are user preferences that allow me to specify the content I want to see and to remove content I don't. Fleshbot already offers one clear division of topics, so clearly what I'm suggesting is not impossible. Taking the same idea and expanding it to other Gawker sites might lead to Kotaku readers not having to sift through Xbox posts to find Wii posts. There are wider applications.
04/01/09
They already can:
[kotaku.com] (Wii tag) or [kotaku.com] (Nintendo tag).
You don't seem to be listening. I'm saying you can't report on straight porn without coverage of the men. And you shouldn't. And to expect something different is a little bit foolish.
And as much as I want this thread (or any Fleshbot thread really) to get to 100 comments, I don't think there's really anything new for either one of us to say.
04/01/09
I am saying that the tags are not a good enough measure of site content. They're helpful in searching, but they don't necessarily make a good enough content filter, even with the "not" tag applied, and require me to go through all sorts of gymnastics to browse the site. I don't see a way to permanently apply the combination of tags and not-tags that would lead to a less repulsive Fleshbot browsing experience, but I can see from a scripting standpoint how such a thing could be implemented by the people running the Gawker sites.
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Actually, I'd wait for the Amish version of this, if I were in the market for a creation such as this. You know what craftsmen the Amish are..