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Naked semihominid recent parolees are NEVER topical.
There needs to be a new category on Fleshbot to just kill the disgusting straight porn guy posts.
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@Lux Alptraum: Yeah, seriously. I'm not really a fan of most straight male porn stars, but for the most part they are necessary for straight porn, and I would never go as far as to say that they aren't needed in a post about a porn movie that features men in addition to the women.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...:
I hate porn guys. They disgust me. Unfortunately there's no filter here to get rid of the straight porn guys. There should be.
If I wanna see some hairy dude with prison tats abuse attractive women, I'm pretty sure I can get my fix for that from the douchebag in the apartment across the street from mine, any day of the week.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...:
I've never met or heard of a straight women porn fan who is fond of the work of a straight porn actor (or as I refer to them "recent parolees"). Show a straight woman pictures of porn guys such as those on this site and I'll bet that 99% of them won't have any kind of positive reaction to any of the guys who want anything to do with women.
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@likefunbutnot: You're telling me James Deen looks like a recent parolee? Dane Cross? Will Powers? Randy Spears? Hell, Evan Stone? Something tells me you haven't seem many recent parolees in your life.
Back to the point, you pretty much cannot make straight porn without male actors (you actually literally can't make it, but since lesbian porn is counted as straight porn more often than not, I won't say it is absolutely impossible). They are as much a part of the porn industry (and it can be argued as important of a part) as the women. I can guarantee you many of these men have at the very least hundreds, if not thousands or tens of thousands, of female admirers. They are here, they aren't going anywhere, and you know it, and to demean them like you are seems a little childish and mean.
And on a lighter note:
Lisa: [to Maxxx] You pig, you're responsible for degrading all of those women.
Clark: Equally degradable in pornographic films.
Lisa: Men are always in a position of power.
Rodgers: They're the ones who want the product so bad, they're the victims.
Lisa: Well, it exploits men by exploiting women.
Clark: Hence, it exploits people.
@likefunbutnot: You need to stop judging and check out the works of the likes of Evan Stone, Steven St. Croix and Sean Michaels and make some informed opinions.
Either that or you're hetero/homophobic, depending on genre.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...:
Well, let us get this out of the way: I don't like straight porn. I don't like seeing the guys they get to film scenes sex scenes with women. In a lot of cases, the action is fake (money shot), it's unpalatable (spitting on gentials as "lube") and in other cases it's just disturbing (creampies, Max Hardcore-anything, gagging etc).
My original reason for posting was that I am glad I can appreciate a post about Stoya. I'm still cool with Stoya. However, I would love to see Fleshbot broken down a little bit more with solo woman and lesbian porn postings separate from the purportedly "straight" category of porn girls with knuckle-dragging viagra jockeys.
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@sam991: Y'know, I don't mind the gay posts on Fleshbot. Every once in a while I even forward a post to a couple ladies I know who are into that sort of thing.
I do, however, dislike seeing the porn chicks I do like (such as Stoya) being despoiled by men who look like they just got off a 5 - 10 stretch for manslaughter at San Quentin, which is my general opinion of straight porn's male talent pool.
I will give Evan Stone some credit for occasionally being funny in porn movies, as is Ron Jeremy, but that doesn't mean I wanna see either of them naked.
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@likefunbutnot: First, please stop stereotyping. It just makes you sound closed-minded, which more than likely you aren't.
Second, there are tons of solo and lesbian posts/images on Fleshbot (the Babes being a perfect example). The reason you wont see Stoya in most of them is because she doesn't do that much solo/lesbian work anymore. But when she does do lesbian stuff, it's trumpeted just as much as anything else (for example, [fleshbot.com] ). I don't think it needs to be separated because it's straight porn, just like everything else that is under that tag.
And more to the point, your second comment was completely pointless. What exactly is the problem with showing the two men she was having sex with in an article about her first released boy/boy/girl scene (which is what I'm pretty sure you are referring to)?
P.S. - Look at the tag. The vast majority of the headlining pictures used for stories about her don't feature any men in them (either solo or girl/girl [or in one instance boy/girl/girl but you can't see the guy]).
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actress who loves 70s R&B: Look at the Stoya tag. Preview would have helped there.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...:
There's a "Gay" fleshbot and a "Straight" Fleshbot now. I think we need entirely guy-less Fleshbot, too. I honestly don't think there's anybody out there who really wants to see any of those guys, or at least any more of their bodies than needs to be to get their penis in frame.
I think I've made it clear that I don't.
And while I'm commenting, more Fleshbot coverage of the studios that actually do the great work of female-exclusive porn (e.g. Girlfriend Films, Sweetheart Video) would also be nice.
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There's a "Gay" fleshbot and a "Straight" Fleshbot now. I think we need entirely guy-less Fleshbot, too. I honestly don't think there's anybody out there who really wants to see any of those guys, or at least any more of their bodies than needs to be to get their penis in frame.
I think I've made it clear that I don't.
@likefunbutnot:
I'm sure they're many people out there who don't want to see BBW or interracial porn either. So, should they make a Chubby-less Fleshbot and a whites only Fleshbot as well?
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@Popular Commentator:
Those are subcategories within a wider branch of common sexuality. I don't think that's the same thing as wanting "just the girls." There's already a "just the guys" option for people who are into that sort of thing.
Frankly if straight porn guys were not so completely revolting it would not be necessary. But they are. Let's face it: porn guys are basically a life support system for a penis. I don't wanna see that. I can't believe anybody wants to see that.
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@likefunbutnot: And yet, amazingly, many people do.
Gay porn and straight porn are two completely separate industries. That's why they're separated on the site. The majority of people who want to see women alone also want to see women with men--and those who don't are generally able to just skip over the things they don't like, in the same way that people skip over, say, tattooed girls or creampies or anal if it's not to their liking.
It's generally pretty obvious which posts are going to have men in them. If it's really such a burden on you, I recommend making use of the following tag pages:
fleshbot.com/tag/lesbian
fleshbot.com/tag/babes
@Lux Alptraum:
Why can't these things be categorically assigned or set in a user preference someplace? Things get added to the tag cloud all the time. If I'm browsing just for those couple of tags I might very well miss something that's interesting yet not full of that which I find loathsome.
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@likefunbutnot: the best thing to come out of this whole discussion is finding out that stoya actually reads comments on articles about her.. and then comments too... awesome pure awesome. another reason for her title as Supreme Commandres.
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@hoffmanbike: This isn't the first time. My personal favorite though, was the Extreme Pornstar Championship one: [fleshbot.com] Though the G4 one was pretty good too (and this coming from an unabashed Windows guy ([fleshbot.com] ).
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@Lux Alptraum: Oh, and my favorite feature that no one talks about, the not tag.
So to use some examples brought up earlier
No BBW - fleshbot.com/tag/not:bbw/
No interracial - fleshbot.com/tag/not:interracial/
That is if those things actually bother you that much.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...:
I assure you they do bother me. I wouldn't continue posting about it if I didn't.
Unfortunately, I don't know of any tag or combination of tags that will assuredly filter out straight porn guys while leaving other content untouched. That depends entirely on the whim of whichever editor posted the content, doesn't it?
Using Lux's suggestion to just browse with specific tags is likewise broken, since there are tons of interesting posts that aren't going to get any of the small number of relevant tags I might bother to keep up with.
This issue isn't particularly a problem on, say, IO9 or Gizmodo; it's not likely that anyone on those sites feels so strongly about a particular subset of topics that going to cause any real-world level of revulsion, but it's certainly possible here on Fleshbot.
Also note that I'm not suggesting anyone else stop looking at whatever the hell happens to interest anyone else. I'm just saying there need to be better controls over the Fleshbot user experience.
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@likefunbutnot: congratulations. the longest comment thread in the time I've come here is the equivalent of a "no fat chicks" t-shirt.
shut SHUT the fuck up.
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@likefunbutnot: If it's a problem with Fleshbot, then it's a problem with every Gawker website. Which is to say there isn't a problem.
There's pretty much no way that you can report on the straight porn industry without talking about/showing the male talent. And even if you could, it would be stupid/silly and pretty much sexist. And there's no good reason to do it. There are tons of solo posts (again, highlighted by the babes tag), and tons of lesbian posts (again, the lesbian tag). Everything else is porn having to do with at least one man and at least one woman. They are equally important in the act of intercourse, so they should both be seen/reported on. To be honest, if you have a problem with that, then maybe you should find a site that focuses less on the heterosexual portion of the industry.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...: And more to my first point, what you're asking for is like asking to be able to view Gizmodo without posts about computers. It's so ingrained into what the site out that leaving it out would leave you nearly devoid of content. And there wouldn't be enough people that wanted it to justify it.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...:
Other sites where I participate, such as Slashdot, there are user preferences that allow me to specify the content I want to see and to remove content I don't. Fleshbot already offers one clear division of topics, so clearly what I'm suggesting is not impossible. Taking the same idea and expanding it to other Gawker sites might lead to Kotaku readers not having to sift through Xbox posts to find Wii posts. There are wider applications.
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@likefunbutnot: Taking the same idea and expanding it to other Gawker sites might lead to Kotaku readers not having to sift through Xbox posts to find Wii posts. There are wider applications.
They already can:
[kotaku.com] (Wii tag) or [kotaku.com] (Nintendo tag).
You don't seem to be listening. I'm saying you can't report on straight porn without coverage of the men. And you shouldn't. And to expect something different is a little bit foolish.
And as much as I want this thread (or any Fleshbot thread really) to get to 100 comments, I don't think there's really anything new for either one of us to say.
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@hodayathink is looking for a white 20-something porn actres...:
I am saying that the tags are not a good enough measure of site content. They're helpful in searching, but they don't necessarily make a good enough content filter, even with the "not" tag applied, and require me to go through all sorts of gymnastics to browse the site. I don't see a way to permanently apply the combination of tags and not-tags that would lead to a less repulsive Fleshbot browsing experience, but I can see from a scripting standpoint how such a thing could be implemented by the people running the Gawker sites.
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